Die Fußnoten zu Platon (OSP)

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Die Fußnoten zu Platon (S. 202ff)

Socratic dialogues are examples of this criti­cal dialogue; in them, Socrates often makes remarks about the need for critical dialogue. For example, in Crito, Socrates says, "Let us examine the question together, my dear friend, and if you make any objection while I am speaking, make it and I will listen to you" (48e). In Phaedo, he incites his interlocutor to criticize him by ask­ing, "Do you think there is something lacking in my argument?" and in Euthydemus he remarks similarly: "There is nothing I would like better than to be refuted on these points" (295a). In Theaetetus and Clitophon, Socrates explains why the process of critique is always beneficial: "Either we shall find what we are going out after; or we shall be less inclined to think we know things which we don't know at all—and even that would be a reward we could not fairly be dissatisfied with" (187b–c); and, "Once I know my good and bad points, I will make it my practice to pursue and develop the former while ridding myself of the latter to the extent that I am able" (407a). For this reason, in academic discussion one should present a critique frankly and not try to please anyone (cf. Euthyphro, 14e; Protagoras, 319b, 336e; Republic, 336e).

11.Plato describes the idea of midwifery through the mouth of Socrates, whom he has say in one of his dialogues: one thing which I have in common with the ordinary midwives is that I myself am barren of wisdom. The common reproach against me is that I am always asking questions of other peo­ple but never express my own views about anything, because there is no wisdom in me; and that is true enough. And the reason of it is this, that God compels me to attend the travail of others, but has forbidden me to procreate. So that I am not in any sense a wise man; I cannot claim as the child of my own soul any discovery worth the name of wisdom. But with those who associate with me it is different. At first some of them may give the impression of being ignorant and stupid; but as time goes on and our association continues, all whom God permits are seen to make progress—a progress which is amazing both to other people and to themselves. And yet it is clear that this is not due to anything they have learned from me; it is that they discover within themselves a multitude of beautiful things, which they bring forth into the light. (Plato, Theaetetus, 150c–d) Plutarch sums up: "Socrates was not engaged in teaching any-thing, but by exciting perplexities as if inducing the inception of labour-pains in young men he would arouse and quicken and help to deliver their innate conceptions; and his name for this was obstetric skill, since it does not, as other men pretend to do, implant in those who come upon it intelligence from without but shows that they have it native within themselves but undeveloped and confused and in need of nurture and stabilization" (Platonic Questions, 1000e). The Socratic idea is that the purpose of teaching is to help some-one learn to learn, to be able to pose questions. A precondition for that is puzzlement. In the dialogue Meno, the title character de-scribes the Socratic teacher's effect: Socrates, before I even met you I used to hear that you are al-ways in a state of perplexity and that you bring others to the same state, and now I think you are bewitching and beguiling me, simply putting me under a spell, so that I am quite per­plexed. Indeed, if a joke is in order, you seem, in appearance and in every other way, to be like the electric ray, for it too makes anyone who comes close and touches it feel numb, and you now seem to have had that kind of effect on me, for both my mind and my tongue are numb, and I have no answer to give you. (80a–b) But this state of perplexity is ultimately for the better, as Socrates explains: SOCRATES: Have we done him any harm by making him per­plexed and numb as the torpedo fish does? MENo: I do not think so. SOCRATES: Indeed, we have probably achieved something relevant to finding out how matters stand, for now, as he does not know, he would be glad to find out, whereas before he thought he could easily make many fine speeches to large au­diences about the square of double size and said that it must have a base twice as long. MENO: So it seems. SOCRATES: Do you think that before he would have tried to find out that which he thought he knew though he did not, before he fell into perplexity and realized he did not know and longed to know? (84a–c; see also Alcibiades, 106d)

20. The reason the Socratic teacher was also called a matchmaker was that it was his task to join people into giving birth together (Xenophon, Symposium, 3). Socrates describes his method: "With the best will in the world I undertake the business of match-making; and I think I am good enough—God willing—at guessing with whom they might profitably keep company. Many of them I have given away to Prodicus; and a great number also to other wise and inspired persons" (Plato, Theaetetus, 151b). Compare this to: "Someone asked Aristippus [a disciple of Socrates] how Socrates had helped him. He replied, `He enabled me to find for myself sat­isfying fellow-students of philosophy' " (Philodemus, Rhetoric, 1, 342.13). 21.The third Academy metaphor was that of the teacher as master of ceremonies (the symposiarkhos) at banquets. These took place in the evenings, and in conjunction with the dialogues of the day they were an essential learning experience. The purpose of these banquets was quite serious and intellectually ambitious—for example, the discussion of some heavyweight philosophical subject—but they were, in addition, powerfully experiential events. (Two great de­scriptions are the symposia of Plato and Xenophon.) The symposiarch was responsible for the success of the banquets in two ways: first, from his elevated position he made sure that the intellectual goals of dialogue were attained; second, it was also his responsibility to ensure that none of the participants remained too stiff. To this latter end, he had two means at his disposal. First, he had the right to order the excessively stiff participants to drink more wine. If this did not work, the symposiarch could order the partici­pant to remove his clothes and dance! The symposiarch used any means necessary to catalyze passionate contributions (cf. Plato, Symposium, 213e-14a).


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